Business Building on the Go: How Chad James Balances Work and Travel in an RV
Business Builder Way Ft. Chad James
In this episode, we are joined by Chad James, founder of The 2nd Man Group.
In this episode of Business Builder Way, host Wayne Herring is joined by Chad James, a successful business coach and entrepreneur who has taken a unique approach to both his career and his personal life. Chad and his wife have embraced a nomadic lifestyle, living and working from an RV as they travel across the United States. Wayne and Chad explore the challenges and rewards of this unconventional lifestyle, discussing topics such as maintaining boundaries in a small space, finding community while on the road, and balancing business success with personal fulfillment. If you're curious about the possibilities and the mindset required to live life on your own terms, then this episode is for you. Tune in as Chad shares his insights and advice on building a business and life that aligns with your values and dreams.
Wayne Herring
So Chad is living in an RV, and somebody asked if is that a virtual background? And I said, well, nope. We're at the RV park, and and Chad's home is behind me. So it's been fun having Chad here for a few days. And I think of RVs, and I think of travel and vacation, and I'm thinking, well, Chad and Sabrina must wanna, like, go see things all the time while they're here. But the insight I've had is, like, no. This is their home, and they so happen that their home is here, and we're gonna get to see them. They're gonna come over for dinner tonight, to our house, and we're gonna get to come over here for dinner tomorrow night. The family and Chad and I normally peer coach.
I'll work with Chad on things he's creating 1 week, and then he'll work with me on things we're creating that I'm creating another week. And yesterday, we got to do it in his truck and drive around here. But, really, he's living here, and it's so good to have you. Spend a little bit of time with everybody. We'll have time for we'll have time for some questions and conversation that, Yeah. Would you share with us who you are and why you're living in an RV and what's going on?
Chad James
Sure. So, yeah, Chad James. I've been a and performance coach for about 24 years now. Started my practice after I sold a software company, then moved to my dream town of Steamboat Springs, Colorado. And And then I did all the the stupid things that a 27 ish year old with a bunch of money does. I spent all my money, got divorced, you know, those types of things. At some point, a friend of mine asked me if I could help him with his business. And because I was the smartest man alive at 28 years old, I said, of course I can help you with that.
And, so I started helping him, and about a year into that, he, he said, hey, can I pay you to do this? And I guess that's how I became a coach. Didn't call it coaching back then. That's I think we just called it consulting, but it morphed into coaching over the years. So, yeah, I've been coaching for a long time, about a year and a well, I guess what is it? 23. So about 3 years ago, my wife and I started getting really tired of winter. So Steamboat Springs, Colorado gets about 440 inches of snow a year, which I think is probably more than Mike Green gets in Alaska. Maybe not. But It's a ton of snow, and it's winter for about 7 months.
And 1 year, the last day of snowed was June 22nd, and the 1st day of snowed was October 1st. So that's all we had was September, August and September was it, and that we didn't have snow. And so we decided we might want to start thinking about getting out of there. We'd raised our kids. Our kids are 24 and 22 now. They were finishing school, and our son was intending moving from Utah, where he lived in Ogden, Utah, to Georgia. So we went down and tried out Georgia for a few days. Two different 10 day trips in south central Georgia, that what they call middle Georgia.
The area was a town's called Perry, Georgia, south of Warner Robins, Macon area. And after 2 10 day trips to that area, we looked at each other and said, Yeah. We're not moving here. This is not our place. And we got a little bit distraught because we have a granddaughter that's down there, our son is down there. We knew we were leaving Steamboat, but we didn't really have a place to go. And at the time, we had a camper similar to the the white one that Wayne showed you that's that's sitting right in front of us. Its name was Dolly after Dolly Parton, my my wife's favorite singer.
And, she said, well, I guess we could always live in Dolly. And we laughed and laughed, and then we went, wait a second. Maybe we could. And, maybe not Dolly. Maybe that's too small, but maybe we can figure out how to live in an RV. And so we started doing some research, and that was in about, July of 2021 or something along those lines. In September, we actually ordered this rig intending to to go on the road the next spring, which we did. So we left in early April of 2022, and have been on the road full time.
So since then, we've been to 21 states. We've taken the rig about, a little over 11,000 miles. This is our 60 59th or 60th stop. So we stop about 8 to 10 days in each place. Often, when we go to visit someone, we'll actually stay shorter because we'll modify our schedule to visit. But After this, we're going to Gettysburg for 2 weeks. So we're going to DC to visit some friends for 2 weeks, and we're going to Virginia Beach for 2 weeks, Greenville for 2 weeks, and then we'll spend November, December in Georgia. And then this year, our intent is to winter in Florida.
So that's kinda how we got off road. Nice.
Wayne Herring
Does that bring up any questions for anybody?
Jason Bower
I I got a question, Chad. It was might have been divine that it happened, and I got this invite here today because my buddy sent me a sprinter van this morning. I've been searching for about 6, 8 months. My buddy sent me a sprinter van this morning. I'm trying to do what you're doing, anywhere from 30 days to a 120 days and pick up and leave. Travel to see Tom out in in Idaho, maybe Mike in Alaska, and then everything in between.
Chad James
Are you married? Not currently. I was.
Craig Leary
If you wanna stay married do it in something bigger than sprinter van. But but if you've managed to already get the divorce, then, yeah, have the nice small. It's perfect. Yeah. Do you think doing it in a sprinter van will get you divorced?
Chad James
Well, you know, well, just just just tell your wife you're gonna travel in a Ford Transit van. You'll be fine. We get that divorce right away. Oh, no. That's exciting, Jason. I I we love it out here. One of the hardest things out here at first was to find community. It gets a lot lonelier than I thought it would.
So you thought you'd be out and you'd be bump into people and you hang out at campfires the whole deal. So the one thing that we've noticed is that amongst full timers, there's kind of 2 categories of full timers. There's full timers because they have to be. They live in a campground because that's as much as they can afford. And they're typically stationary. And then the other category of full timers is it was kind of split. It's either retired people or full time working people. And the full time working people often have children with them.
But it's hard to kind of find your community. So we actually joined a group that is called Switch It Up And, we joined that group, and they have 4 or 5 gatherings a year. And so we've met literally hundreds of people and get to come together and and see that. So As you're on your travels, Jason, finding some of these groups and hooking up with them, there's several out there, is a great way to get to know other people who are doing the same thing that you're doing. So we're meeting up in Hershey in a Friday with some friends. Like I said, we're meeting up in DC and and Colonial Williamsburg with some friends, all of whom we've met through the RV world. But, Jason, please reach out anytime. I I there's a whole world of learning that maybe we can save you some time on.
Jason Bower
I feel like it's gonna be a big curve because, although I've had some some, motor homing, experience, not nothing long term like this.
Chad James
Yeah. You'll love it. Bring less than you need because you can buy it as you go.
Jason Bower
I don't need much. Just my motorcycle gear, my mountain bike gear, my ski gear.
Wayne Herring
Oh, go ahead, Mike.
Mike Green
Understand you're counting days and such and miles, etcetera. Other than when you drove through Nebraska or Kansas, What day or what state did you hit the wall? Like, what am I doing here? Were you at wall drug getting a free glass of water, and you're like, What do I put in here? When did this happen?
Chad James
That's funny. We we actually call it the stoppies. And, actually, if you've not done it, the middle of Nebraska and the middle of Kansas are amazing. If if you get off the interstate, there's some amazing stuff in both of those states, which is kinda one of our cool learnings. But The first time that I kinda got this stop is I think there was a period, like, last year, right around this time, actually. Christmas time or fall starting to happen. You wanna be around family and that, and we were nowhere near family. That was the 1st time that I got the stoppies and said, I'm done. I need to stop.
We need to call it. And now we just call the stoppies. It's kind of a short term affliction. It comes and goes. You might get it for 2 or 3 days. You know if the weather sucks in south central Pennsylvania, we get the stoppies. But if it's gorgeous in south central Pennsylvania, we get the go e's. We love it.
And, so, yeah, the 1st time was probably then. And I probably get it once a quarter or so. Like, it's a bit of a drag. Let's say you've got a a big area of that you wanna see and do, whether it's people or or attractions or state parks or national parks or ocean slash lakes. And then your next spot is 11 hours over here. Well, that's not 1 travel day for us. That's about 3 travel days for us. Three travel days Would be a Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
So often, what we'll do, because we work, was we'll go one travel day for a day and a half to some place and spend some place some week in a place that we don't know anything about. And sometimes that works out great, and sometimes it doesn't. But, yeah, that's kinda the answer there, Mike.
Mike Green
Mhmm. Thank you.
Wayne Herring
Which is the stoppies. It's interesting for me with you and I having this ongoing dialogue week after week. I remember when the stoppies the first time you used that phrase, because it would be common that you and I would say, well, how are you doing? What's going on? You said I've got a case of those stoppies, and it's come up. Yeah. That sounds about right about quarterly. So, yeah. Great question, Mike. I like how you said it's a temporary affliction.
I get stoppies. I've had stoppies with my work and my business at times.
Mike Green
Is there a metaphor for this type of lifestyle that you use with your clients?
Chad James
Oh, gosh. It's like living in an RV full time. There's the metaphor. I mean, the it's it's not so much like building an airplane while you're flying it, nor is it any other strange metaphor like that. It's The relationships you know, you have very short relationships or you have relationships that are parsed. You know, my primary relationship is obviously with my wife because we're together 247. She was gone today for 5 hours. I felt like I was on vacation. She would say the same thing if I was gone. You know, you get the whole rig to yourself. You get to clean off the counter the way you like.
You get to listen to country music instead of disco or whatever. So, yeah, I don't know if there's a metaphor that I can grab that quickly, but I'm sure there are some out there.
Wayne Herring
Brendan, it looked like you had a question. Yeah.
Brendan P. Speers
Did you have The the bug before it seemed like the winters were, like, the impetus for that, and then It just started to evolve or or develop into yeah. We're gonna keep it rolling. Was there ever like, hey. We're gonna do this only for 3 months, 6 months, or something like that, and then break?
Chad James
Yeah. So we've got, like, $300,000 worth of rig and truck that that we bought just for this. And so Our intention was to do it for at least a year, kinda to get the value out of that. Right? And not just for that reason, but just because it takes a little while. Well, I guess about 8 months in, We realized that, man, we have scratched the surface on the things that we would like to do, the places we'd like to go, the things we'd like to see. And so, yeah, we did start with a shorter term. I I think we said it at least a year. And now we don't see a, an end in in sight.
2025 ish might be the 1st time we really start to think about it. And we have kind of loose plans from now until the end of 2025. We've got big rocks that we wanna go do and see, and there's some really cool stuff coming up. There's an eclipse coming up, and the best place to see that is in Texas. There's the Balloon Festival in Albuquerque, New Mexico. That's October. But we'd like to be up in the northeast kind of in the fall 1 year, and then also be in the northwest kind of in the fall 1 year. So we've got a lot of those types of things.
So once we've kinda settled in, it doesn't seem like there's a definite end in sight. And what we said is we'll continue doing it as long as we're having fun and we're still having a good time.
Tom Rubens
Chad, first of all, I think it's Cool that you're that you've figured out a way to do what you wanna do with your life without letting your business being charged. You you it doesn't sound like your business has been impacted negatively, certainly, By you not having, dropped anchor anywhere.
Chad James
No. In fact, I think it I think the the opposite has been true. You know, my business is I I won't say it's doubled, by any means because that would be too much. But I've I've I've increased my business quite a bit. There there there must be some intrigue to me doing this because the first question I get every single client I I work with 14 clients right now. Every single client says, where are you today? And then we talk little bit about that. And so, no, it it has not at all been challenging. It's also kinda cool because I just spent a week up near Niagara Falls, and I have 3 clients that are Canadian that are all kind of a few hours from the Toronto area.
And they all came across, and I rented an Airbnb, and we spent 3, 4 days, at an Airbnb together right on Lake Ontario. It was super cool. So it actually gives me the opportunity to get a little for some of my clients. And matter matter of fact, when I go to DC, I'm spending some time with some clients as well.
Tom Rubens
That is great. The other thing is, Wayne, I don't know if you ever met this guy, but it within Big A's group. There was a guy that was in my small group who his whole business is about serving the community that Chad is in right now.
Wayne Herring
It's Kevin Wallenbach. He had a software company that was serving RV dealerships, and then they went out and RV'd for a year. Got it.
Mike Green
Jeb, when Aaron and I, my wife of 13 years, met, I was doing rotational work. So I was gone 10 days on, home 3 weeks, or 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. And when we went to Saudi to live, it was the first time that we actually lived together pretty much every day, 247. I was coming home every night. And that transition was really interesting to say the least. At some point, she was just looking at me like, When are you leaving? You know? Because she was used to having her space or and such. Have you had such experience with your lovely wife? New boundaries have to be made, etcetera?
Chad James
Yeah. So part of the reason that we have a 5th wheel, which is a camper that's actually pulled by a truck, instead of a class a, which is like a bus where you would pull a car behind it, is the the 5th wheels have more space. And so in our rig, The section in the back there, it it it's a toy hauler. So the garage section, you know, that section back there with that white door is my office. This section right here with these 2 big windows is, the living room, dining room, kitchen, and then that's the little section up in front is our bedroom. So we we have 3 spaces that we can go to get away. And so most Tuesdays and Wednesdays and Thursdays, we see each other only when I leave to get something to drink, eat, or pee. And, she's working right here.
You can't see her, but she's literally right behind that window. She's on a call right now. And so We've always lived very parallel lives. She's always had a career. I've always had a job that don't connect, and even our friend groups have been very different. And so, yeah, it's a lot of boundaries. You know? I'll tell her, hey. I'm gonna go play my Xbox tonight instead of watch TV with you.
And she says, That's fantastic because I wanna watch Golden Girls. And I say, that's fantastic because I don't and then it's just other stuff. Like, most mornings, we'll go find a coffee shop, take a drive around, and then I literally give her a smooch goodbye, and I say, I'll see you later. And then I go into the hole, and she does her stuff.
Mike Green
I would imagine though that you could hear each other's conversations. That's what drove my wife nuts recently this last winter. She literally came to me. She's not this type of person. This is not sustainable. So this winter, I'll be literally having my office in a very small little cabin that I have to Shubble my way to get to every day. So it's literally retrofitted. No joke.
And so you have you had those moments where Something's gotta give. And I know that we're emotionally intelligent. I get that. However, I would think this is really important for people to understand that This is a different way of life, and you need to make sure that boundaries can expand and contract and that verbiage will be utilized when things aren't going so well.
Chad James
Yeah. I mean, the the you know, I've I've been with my wife for 20 plus years, and you don't learn a whole lot more about your spouse if you live in the same place for 20 years. But you you go from 4,000 square feet to 380 square feet, you learn a lot. And one of the things that we learned is that that I I Spies clutter. I've always known this. She just thought I was, you know, I just kept it in my own space. And she is a clean freak, you know, things like the toilet seat and these types of things. And, so we've had to be very conscious of, like, how that goes.
She likes the lights very bright. I don't. So we go back and forth on that kind of stuff, and it's 1st off, like you said, emotional intelligence. We've been together a long time. We can speak very honestly to one another. You know, if I say I need some space or she says I'm grouchy and need to be alone, we just do that. What we've done for the noise, though, is you can't hear it, but there's air conditioners. There's 3 air conditioners on here, and they all have a fan.
And so we will turn that fan on in the middle of the winter when it's super cold, like 62 degrees where we are. And, we'll we'll turn those fans on, and you can't really hear each other, over the fans. And then we've got white noise machines and and music and all those types of things. And actually the the seal between the garage and and the main Spaces. It's pretty solid. It's hard to hear one another in between the
Wayne Herring
Could you talk a little bit about your work? And Mhmm. You worked off of this Smart Life Blueprint. You had a newsletter called Small Business Profit Builders. Now you're doing what what is the new YouTube So Be Better Bob Be Better Bob, which is focused on The business owner, Bob, in both life and business. Mhmm. And it's one of the things that Chad and I have connected really solidly on is We both do work with people where it's about growing their business, but it's also a whole lot about life and sanity and mental wellness, Really and and I love how the questions that have been asked have been a lot about, like, what's it like to live in that kind of small space? But do tell us a little bit about your business and the The place you come from when you're coaching.
Chad James
Sure. You know, so my goal is and always has been to help small business owners succeed faster, live better, and create the life they've always imagined. And so I'm not just about growing the business, but I'm about helping them really take a look at how to turn it into something that serves them versus just some big monster around their neck that makes money. So a philosophy I have was that money's not the the goal of business. It's simply a requirement. And so once we figure that out, then we can figure out how to have a great life. So Small biz or the the smart life method is a methodology I created 10 or 12 or 15 or 20 years ago. Or there are 8 or 9 areas of an Entrepreneur's life that I think need to be in alignment in order for them to create the life they've always imagined.
So the business model has to be good. The finances have to be good. The team has to be good. The relationships have to be good. The health has to be good. And so that model is something that I bring into kind of all of my coaching. So let let's say we're doing really good in finance, While we're struggling in health, well, that's going to affect the rest of our business. And so we focus on health and we focus on what we can do in that area.
And maybe I'll bring in a coach. Maybe I'll help them with some of my own stuff. But it's kind of a well rounded business owner concept that I'm looking for. My guys are usually Two to 20,000,000 in revenue. It's almost all men. Just, you know, men own about 85% of small businesses right now. Not because I only work with managers. They own a lot of the businesses.
So then I actually wrote for about 2 years. I always joke with Wayne. Wayne's got a 6 month attention span. I've got an 18 month attention span. So when you'll take out a new project for 6 months, mine's usually about 18 months. So I wrote Small Business Profit Builders for about 18 months, and that was a Paper only newsletter. It's $150 a month. I had about 40 or 50 subscribers.
They I would send them in the mail Sixteen to 20 pages of my thoughts, which was usually 4 3 or 4 or 5 articles on stuff that I was thinking about. It's kind of a newsletter type thing. So did that for a while. Tom and I started MasterCoach Forum, which was a spot to get smart, good coaches together. And we had several smart, good coaches that came and were a part of that. But we had a great time with that, and Tom and I really enjoyed working together on that. I then had a mastermind called, Mavericks, which was a $99 a month membership thing where once a week, I would publish a video on something, and then 1 time a month, we'd have a call. And that lasted for about 18 months.
So, hopefully, the podcast will last more than 18 months, but, I doubt it. But Kim is here. I shouldn't have said that with her here. She's probably quickly typing about how it's gonna last more than 18 months. She said that Her big goal is to get me to actually launch it. So now I work with CEOs, only business owners. So a a CEO that's been hired by someone is not my Cup of tea. Just business owners, just people who've kinda done it themselves or are doing it themselves.
So right now, my mix is kind of Real estate developers, architects. I've got some home services. I've got a guy that owns multiple UPS stores, one that owns multiple auto repair shops. So I just I love working with these guys. I prefer a younger cat sometimes, but I had a client for 11 years that just retired. He was 3 when he retired. Most of my clients are in their thirties and forties, though.
Brendan P. Speers
Do you ever make suggestions to people in Or either observations, like, you're not in the business that is scalable to meet, you know, what you're trying to achieve. And, Like, have you ever thought of a parallel business, new business, add on business, anything like that where it's like, yeah, you can't accomplish This in this particular area, you should think about these areas where you might have a skill set that Would allow you to to meet those life and business objectives.
Chad James
Yeah. For sure. I mean, scalability is not necessarily a goal for me. Again, I I them to create the light they always imagined. But if that happens to be a goal for them and they're not doing it in their current business, we'll look at that. But a a a good example is I've got a gentleman that is in Canada. He has 2 businesses. 1 is a a custom building company that was started by him and his brother via his father.
His dad didn't start it, but his his dad was involved in it. And it it's named after him. It's called Mueller Custom Building, and it does 5 or $10,000,000 a year, may maybe. But on the net profit side, it makes 4% or 3% or something like that. He has another business that was just kind of a passion project he started called Rock, which is a landscaping business that makes 4 or 5,000,000 at 30 or 40% of net profit. So he's kind of sucked into this Mueller thing that he wants to keep forever, but, you know, we're having the conversation with Ben right How about, hey. Maybe we let that go, and we just focus on the landscape piece. So yeah.
Absolutely. We talk about that a lot. Everybody thinks they wanna be a millionaire, but I'm guessing there's some millionaires on this call. And it's not all it's cracked up to be. Right? And so once we make the money, Figure out how to make it, which I contend is the easiest part of business. Right? Then we have to figure out how to how to spend the life. And, I think that's the hardest part. And the team is hard, and the people are hard, and so we focus more on that.
I focus more on that kind of stuff with them. Craig.
Craig Leary
So my best friend Told me the other day, he's 62 and makes a good living. I had a little falling out with his boss, and he told me, I'm making $4 a week from this side hustle, but he said, I think I'm just gonna hop in the RV, and his wife's never worked, and I'm gonna do this thing. And I think it's great. I think it's a different RV. But if you were just at a bar or a coffee shop talking to someone and they said that to you, What's, like, 2 or 3 things you would say you have to think about this?
Chad James
Internet. Internet. Internet. It would be the first one. No. And I'm only half joking about that. It took us a while to figure that out. But the the first thing I would say is you can do any business as an owner That doesn't require you to show up in an office.
You can do any of that in the RV. And so we meet everything from affiliate marketers to people who own multiple businesses to, There's good amount of coaches, coach types out here. I bump into them more often. So the first thing I would say is understand that that you can do anything anywhere. Number 2, Keep it slow. Remember, just like Wayne was talking earlier, remember the difference in what is a vacation day? I'm camping, and I'm on a vacation. And what is a a workday or a life day? That's another one that was at first, it was really hard for us because I would roll in. Like, I went to so many DNI meetings in every town that I could find because I wanted to meet people.
And, man, by about the 7th or 8 pound, I was like, I've met so many people that I'll never talk to again. This is kind of a waste for me. And then the other is to really keep the routine create a routine and keep a routine. One of the absolute hardest things for us on the road is working out. So back in Steamboat, 20 plus years at the same gym with the same people at 5:30 every single morning. We knew which machines were where and what weights were there. And when we first got on the road, we tried to, like, keep up with gyms. We joined Planet Fitness, and then that just became kind of Purple hell to us, and then we tried to do other things.
Yeah. We've got kettlebells and TRX vans and all that. It's really, really hard to stay on top of that. So The routine really helps that, you know, to say, hey. We're going to go do this. I went on a bike ride today. Jason mentioned mountain biking. I'm a mountain biker.
So I went on a mountain bike ride today on the roads, which are kinda like mountain roads. But, yeah, getting routines in place is super important. And then the other is what I would say to anybody who works at home, which is put it the fuck away. You know, when it's time to put it away, it's so easy to grab the laptop, sit in front of the TV, or just work all night just because there's nothing else to do, so to speak. But those would be kind of major pieces of advice from me, at least. And then the other probably the the the most major one, Craig, would be find some community. There are groups of people out there, whether they're retired types or they're working types or families. There's a group called Escapees, which is a national RV group, but they have an adventure y kinda group called Xscapers.
Actually, Jason, this is a group you should probably look at. They do cool stuff. They do these convergences that are A lot of sprinter vans, a lot of, like, boondocky kind of camping. And they do all of their events at night so you can kinda hang out during the day or work during the day. So finding community is a big deal.
Craig Leary
Thank you. That's really helpful.
Chad James
You got it Craig.
Wayne Herring
I just wanna check. Greg and Rhonda, I don't think you've had a chance. Anything, on your mind or anything you wanna ask or kinda put in the conversation?
Ronda Torres
I just find it really interesting But you mentioned about working out. That was my question. Like, how do you fit that in? Are you doing things on your own? But it's really cool that you've got the kettlebells and the TRX band and all that good stuff and Finding a way to fit that in.
Chad James
I've definitely gained my freshman fifteen on the road, so we're slowly working that back into a process.
Ronda Torres
Mhmm. That's cool.
Greg V.
I just wanna say thank you very much. Really got some stuff going in my head. I was always talking to my wife and saying, just take a month and go somewhere sometime. We could still work and all. We have a little one at the house yet, so won't be for some time, but it'll give you some ideas. I appreciate it.
Chad James
You got it, man. There's all kinds of families out here, man. We have friends that travel with 5 kids. We have friends that travel with 2. We have friends with babies. We have a friend that just had a baby on the road 2 weeks ago. Having having kids does not stop you from doing this by any means.
Wayne Herring
K. Tom, did you say one one more thing?
Tom Rubens
Yeah. You used a Bit of language that I I really appreciated when you said something like figuring out the business and making the money isn't the Hardest part is how are you going to spend the life? And just that phrase, it stuck. I I will be thinking about it, and I'll give you credit for it because it's a it's a great Way to look at it. And I just wanna ask, have you evolved has your, coaching evolved to More reflect how are you going to spend your life, or is that just my imagination?
Chad James
Yeah. I mean, you know, for me, I think I've I fell into the trap that I think a lot of entrepreneurs fall into of of thinking that the business existed for the purpose of making me money. And I always struggled with that because I was like, well, gosh. Everybody says, if you just do what you love, the money will follow, blah blah blah, these types of things. And I've had my share of of ups and downs in business. But when I started just living and focusing on the way that life lives, then everything else just fell into place. And so a huge part of that, obviously, is that there's just a truthfulness in being who you are. And when you stop trying to be someone other than Who you just naturally are, life gets a lot better.
And so, yeah, now life is good. I I'm not ashamed to tell people that I go in there and play video games. Like, that's just who I am. And it doesn't make me a bad businessperson because I do that. And I'm also not ashamed to say that my business probably won't be a $1,000,000 business. It's not even one of my goals. It's supporting everything that I wanted to do. And every now and then, my coach will push me to say, hey.
What can we do to kinda push the limit on this? And we'll go down that rabbit hole for a while, and then I Myself just falling back into, like, yeah. It's good. It's pretty good.
Mike Green
Thanks for sharing.
Chad James
Absolutely, guys. Feel free to reach out if you have more questions.
Jason Bower
Appreciate it. Thanks, everybody.
Wayne Herring
Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for hanging out, everybody. See you all soon.
00:00 Chad lives in an RV, not virtual.
05:58 Joining Switch It Up group connects RVers.
07:19 Amazing middle of Nebraska and Kansas. Stoppies.
12:04 Business increased, no challenges, Canadian clients near Toronto.
14:00 5th wheel camper has more space, with office, living room, kitchen, bedroom. Few interactions during weekdays, both working.
18:14 Helping small business owners succeed and thrive.
19:54 Newsletter, MasterCoach Forum, Mavericks - videos, calls - 18 months.
25:33 Mountain biking, routines, putting work away, community.
28:09 Entrepreneurs fall into money-making trap, authenticity matters.
29:20 Feel free to contact us with questions.
1. In this episode, Chad James and his wife chose to live a nomadic lifestyle in an RV. Have you ever considered living a similar lifestyle? Why or why not?
2. Chad James mentions the importance of aligning different aspects of life for overall success, such as business, finances, relationships, and health. How do you currently prioritize and align these areas in your own life?
3. Chad James discusses the challenges of long-distance travel and the need to stop and spend time in certain places. How do you find a balance between exploring new places and establishing roots in a community?
4. Brendan P. Speers asks Chad James if he had a set time frame for traveling, to which Chad responds that they initially planned for at least a year but now see no end in sight. How does having a flexible timeline affect one's mindset and approach to a nomadic lifestyle?
5. Chad James mentions the importance of scalability in business and exploring new opportunities. How can business owners find the balance between scaling their current business and pursuing new ventures?
6. Chad James emphasizes the importance of figuring out how to spend life after making money. How do you envision your own life after achieving financial success?
7. In this episode, Chad James mentions the importance of establishing routines and finding community while working remotely. How do you create structure and build connections when you are not tied to a specific location?
8. Chad James acknowledges that staying fit while on the road can be a challenge. How do you prioritize your physical health and well-being while balancing a nomadic lifestyle?
9. Chad James mentions that they have friends who travel with different numbers of children and that having kids does not prevent them from doing what they love. How can families find ways to pursue a nomadic lifestyle while still providing stability and opportunities for growth for their children?
10. Chad James explains how his coaching approach has evolved to prioritize authenticity and living life true to oneself rather than solely focusing on making money. How has your own approach to success and fulfillment evolved over time?
Chad James
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Throughout the episode, Chad discusses with the Business Builders his experience in work, coaching, and living in an RV full time. This is not a typical episode where the other Business Builders are present for the discussion and ask about Chad's experiences.
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